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> I just saw TransFormers 3 and I think it was....
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post 29 June 2011, 20:43
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****ing GREAT

I am speechless.,, writing more later ! so many impressions.... This one tops it all... IMO it's so darn close stacking up to TFTM '86 if not it matches it !


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post 29 June 2011, 21:28
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I was going to start a topic about what I thought about it... but, seeing as Sureshot was first, so did I decide to post what I thought of the movie here.

It was a good movie, and some of my friends thought it was a little bit good. There was some good action in the second half of the movie, which had a slow pace inbetween. But the problem with this movie like the rest was as allways the attention that the humans got, givng the Transformers just a litte screen time. Not enough to learn about all of them.
And I did expect more of the final battle. I really wanted to see Optimus and Megatron work together to bring their common enemy down, instead of Optimus ripping his nemesis's head off after being saved by him. Besides, Megatron was in a better condition to fight than Optimus there, making it a bit illogical that Prime whould be able to kill Megatron this easily.

But, it's still not a bad movie, but I expected more of it.

Oh hey, Barricade makes a cameo too.


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post 29 June 2011, 22:00
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QUOTE(Lucar-tron @ 29 June 2011, 22:28) *
I was going to start a topic about what I thought about it... but, seeing as Sureshot was first, so did I decide to post what I thought of the movie here.

It was a good movie, and some of my friends thought it was a little bit good. There was some good action in the second half of the movie, which had a slow pace inbetween. But the problem with this movie like the rest was as allways the attention that the humans got, givng the Transformers just a litte screen time. Not enough to learn about all of them.
And I did expect more of the final battle. I really wanted to see Optimus and Megatron work together to bring their common enemy down, instead of Optimus ripping his nemesis's head off after being saved by him. Besides, Megatron was in a better condition to fight than Optimus there, making it a bit illogical that Prime whould be able to kill Megatron this easily.

But, it's still not a bad movie, but I expected more of it.

Oh hey, Barricade makes a cameo too.


For once I thought the focus on the humans fighting worked very well. You don't get to know all the robots - it's like that in every movie with many charaters. You wouldn't even recognize that many in TFTM ´86 if we didn't have the series.

Megatron was looking for a peace agreement, but Optimus really took Megatron off guard - easy kill... just like Megatron took Sentinel by a surprise attack. Optimus killed all... hoping for final peace now Cybertron got turned into a black hole....
If anything survives, Spielberg has an excellent spinoff for turning destroyed Cybertron into Unicron and Megatron could get rebuild as Galvatron... thus the battle continues


Also... I loved the fact Wheelie was back !. Just sad Ironhide died.


I think the movie is the best of the bunch. Darker, harder, more violent and even Terminator like scenes with human skulls etc. Humor was in there... but it really was toned down... a lot !
I had expected less of it but got much more than anticipated.
My father and littlebrother were very impressed and rated it the best of the bunch... but still you need to know the two previous movies to really get full value out of the 3rd installment.

Oh lastly... that girl playing Carly.... she SUCKED ! what Megan Fox did for acting was not impressive.... but at least she had more emotional expressions and no stone face... This girl is just statically posing for the camera and 0 acting.

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post 29 June 2011, 22:24
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QUOTE(SureShot @ 29 June 2011, 23:00) *
QUOTE(Lucar-tron @ 29 June 2011, 22:28) *
I was going to start a topic about what I thought about it... but, seeing as Sureshot was first, so did I decide to post what I thought of the movie here.

It was a good movie, and some of my friends thought it was a little bit good. There was some good action in the second half of the movie, which had a slow pace inbetween. But the problem with this movie like the rest was as allways the attention that the humans got, givng the Transformers just a litte screen time. Not enough to learn about all of them.
And I did expect more of the final battle. I really wanted to see Optimus and Megatron work together to bring their common enemy down, instead of Optimus ripping his nemesis's head off after being saved by him. Besides, Megatron was in a better condition to fight than Optimus there, making it a bit illogical that Prime whould be able to kill Megatron this easily.

But, it's still not a bad movie, but I expected more of it.

Oh hey, Barricade makes a cameo too.


For once I thought the focus on the humans fighting worked very well. You don't get to know all the robots - it's like that in every movie with many charaters. You wouldn't even recognize that many in TFTM ´86 if we didn't have the series.

Megatron was looking for a peace agreement, but Optimus really took Megatron off guard - easy kill... just like Megatron took Sentinel by a surprise attack. Optimus killed all... hoping for final peace now Cybertron got turned into a black hole....
If anything survives, Spielberg has an excellent spinoff for turning destroyed Cybertron into Unicron and Megatron could get rebuild as Galvatron... thus the battle continues


Also... I loved the fact Wheelie was back !. Just sad Ironhide died.


I think the movie is the best of the bunch. Darker, harder, more violent and even Terminator like scenes with human skulls etc. Humor was in there... but it really was toned down... a lot !
I had expected less of it but got much more than anticipated.
My father and littlebrother were very impressed and rated it the best of the bunch... but still you need to know the two previous movies to really get full value out of the 3rd installment.

Oh lastly... that girl playing Carly.... she SUCKED ! what Megan Fox did for acting was not impressive.... but at least she had more emotional expressions and no stone face... This girl is just statically posing for the camera and 0 acting.


Yeah, you got a point on that you won't be able to know all the characters in a whole movie. But it felt like the rest of the robots (especially Dino (strange name on a Transformer) and Shockwave) could have been more involved in the movie. Though they were still in it enough to get a piece of shine and give some kind of a good impression.

But I guess it has to do with the syndrome of wanting to see more of some characters. unsure.gif

Yeah, poor Ironhide. Especially as his badassery was shown together with Sideswipe.

Something that I can clearly agree with you and my friends watching it (one of them really thought Dino was cool), so did some of the actors suck. Especially the one playing Carly. And compared to Megan Fox, so wasn't Carly interesting at all.
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post 29 June 2011, 23:31
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QUOTE(Lucar-tron @ 29 June 2011, 23:24) *
Yeah, you got a point on that you won't be able to know all the characters in a whole movie. But it felt like the rest of the robots (especially Dino (strange name on a Transformer) and Shockwave) could have been more involved in the movie. Though they were still in it enough to get a piece of shine and give some kind of a good impression.

But I guess it has to do with the syndrome of wanting to see more of some characters. unsure.gif

Yeah, poor Ironhide. Especially as his badassery was shown together with Sideswipe.

Something that I can clearly agree with you and my friends watching it (one of them really thought Dino was cool), so did some of the actors suck. Especially the one playing Carly. And compared to Megan Fox, so wasn't Carly interesting at all.



Agreed indeed !. As for Dino and his name, since he was/is a Ferrari it may have some kind of connection to the car model Ferrari Dino ?... I'm not sure, but that was what I though at first - eventhough his alt mode is a Ferrari 458 Italia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dino_(automobile)


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post 30 June 2011, 00:18
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I also thought the film was great. I already had relatively high expectations of the movie, and had given it a preliminary rating of 3.2 after having read the summaries/spoilers and the comic book adaptation (even though the latter was incomplete and actually a bit confusing. But I had expected that.). But after having seen the actual thing once (I might give it a second viewing eventually) I have decided to raise my rating to 3.4 for a scifi action movie, and 3.8 for a Transformers movie. I gave the first movie a solid 4 on a scale from 1 to 5, so this one is quite close. (I gave Revenge of the Help-Help-I've-Fallen-And-I-Can't-Get-Up a solid 0 on the same scale, by the way).

I thought that perhaps the first 15-20 minutes after the initial flashback were a bit shaky, but after that the movie got going, and managed to keep itself rather streamlined. Even though it was surprisingly long, 2 hours and 34 minutes, the last 2 hours never felt dragged out or slow. And unlike Revenge of the Best Forgotten which consisted of six very loosely related (and quite contrived) consecutive plots, this movie held together rather well. It actually had two different storylines/casts, but they ran parallel to each other and touched every now and then until they were finally intertwined in the last third or so of the movie.

The two parallel storylines/casts was one thing that I liked about this movie - it gave everyone something to do (well, with one or a few exceptions, further below), and none of the returning characters felt out of place.

The other thing I liked about the movie - and this detail surprised me quite a bit, because I wasn't aware of it in advance - was the heavy focus on the humans in the film. I actually prefer it that way; I think humans are absolitely essential to the Transformers stories since it's only by seeing the robots side-by-side with the humans that you can appreciate their power and how deadly they are. But this time the Transformers were more or less relegated to supporting character status for the most part. Not that I'm complaining; it's just that I was surprised to see it. I can imagine that there will be a lot of fanboys that will think the film sucks because of the heavy focus on the humans.

If there's one regret/complaint that I have about this film, it is that one character was diminished so much that he was barely even a supporting character. I am of course talking about Megatron, who had way too little to do in this film, and what little he did (especially towards the end) actually felt a bit contrived - as if he was just a loose thread that the writer realized that "I have to get him in on the action somehow. But how?"

But other than that I have no complaints. I enjoyed seeing the many character deaths, and I enjoyed seeing the humans stand for some of them - the human/Decepticon duels made the threat seem quite real, quite lethal. Sam's second kill (the biggest one) in particular was really great. I felt like cheering for that death.


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post 30 June 2011, 01:01
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QUOTE(Groundsplitter @ 30 June 2011, 01:18) *
If there's one regret/complaint that I have about this film, it is that one character was diminished so much that he was barely even a supporting character. I am of course talking about Megatron, who had way too little to do in this film, and what little he did (especially towards the end) actually felt a bit contrived - as if he was just a loose thread that the writer realized that "I have to get him in on the action somehow. But how?"



I agree with that... his screentime and influence was quite little - still I'd love to hear more about that treaty he made with the traitor Sentinel Prime. It's funny in ROTF one evil bot became good and now in DOTM it's vice versa smile.gif

I was also so impressed with the visuals they made for showing Bumblebee's feelings... the exposed pupils worked so great and convincing to me.
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post 30 June 2011, 01:22
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WOW!

Some quick, random thoughts before going to bed:

For me, this was easily the best movie of the three. Some minor gripes, but overall, this was a fantastic movie.

I think that both Megatron and Shockwave got too little screen time. WAY too little.

I really enjoyed Nimoy's performance, and the Star Trek references (especially the blatant one towards the end of the movie) were phenomenal.

I also noticed lots of little G1 references, apart from the big one (Ultimate Doom anyone? wink2.gif), like in the beginning of the movie when Laserbeak was a copying machine, and when the guy pressed the buttons, it played the G1 theme. Great stuff! smile.gif

Having Laserbeak talk worked really well, and it was quite surprising.

I also like the way they've interwoven the story with actual history. I always love stuff like that.

3D was really good, and I got the wear my cinemask that I got for the Hall of Fame at BotCon wink2.gif

I will have more to say after some sleep and digesting of the movie smile.gif


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3D was really good

That bit I have to disagree with. The bits that were in 3D didn't do much for the film, and 35-40% of the "3D effects" weren't even actual 3D - they were just regular 2D layers at different depths. It looked quite amateurish at times actually, as if you were looking at an animated popup book.
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post 30 June 2011, 07:41
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I went to see the movie yesteray also. All in all not bad. Better than ROTF which in the end wasn't that bad either, if you look past a few bits. The story clearly loaned bits from "The Ultimate Doom" and "Megatron's Master Plan". I would've hoped that the final battles had been more epic. Now they were kinda meh. Leonard Nimoy did a great job as Sentinel Prime. John Malkovich succeeded, in being John Malkovich. They really should've found a real actress for Carly's role.

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I liked it alot, it has as the other 2 movies some scenes that they could have skipped but overall it is a good movie that will probably appeal to the ginat mass of ppl and kids. I thought like the gf that you dont get any evil sense from Patrick Demsys character, and Sams boss when hes kudeling with BB is just weird. Small scenes like that is what I would have wanted out.

But as I said the movie is still great and the cgi is AWESOME. The humans work well this time as SS pointed out.

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It's so stupid that I didn't recognize the total obvious sooner but the big "worm like creature", which I originally thought was an offspring idea of the movie Tremors (big underground worm), is clearly a spin off from the trans-organic Dweller from "The Dweller in the Depths" episode . biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Groundsplitter @ 30 June 2011, 07:54) *
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3D was really good

That bit I have to disagree with. The bits that were in 3D didn't do much for the film, and 35-40% of the "3D effects" weren't even actual 3D - they were just regular 2D layers at different depths. It looked quite amateurish at times actually, as if you were looking at an animated popup book.


Where in the theater were you seated? The 3D experience varies a lot depending on if you sit close to the screen or far away, in the center or off to the side. It also depends on your eyes, as some people go from being unable to see 3D at all, all the way up to being overly sensitive to it. 75% of the movie is in actual 3D; 60% shot with 3D cameras, and 15% digital 3D. The remaining 25% is conversion shots. I thought the 3D was expertly applied; not too much, not too little smile.gif
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QUOTE(BigPete @ 30 June 2011, 12:52) *
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3D was really good

That bit I have to disagree with. The bits that were in 3D didn't do much for the film, and 35-40% of the "3D effects" weren't even actual 3D - they were just regular 2D layers at different depths. It looked quite amateurish at times actually, as if you were looking at an animated popup book.


Where in the theater were you seated? The 3D experience varies a lot depending on if you sit close to the screen or far away, in the center or off to the side. It also depends on your eyes, as some people go from being unable to see 3D at all, all the way up to being overly sensitive to it. 75% of the movie is in actual 3D; 60% shot with 3D cameras, and 15% digital 3D. The remaining 25% is conversion shots. I thought the 3D was expertly applied; not too much, not too little smile.gif


I have to agree on that. I admit I've only seen 2 movies in 3D... TF3 and Avatar and I think 3D worked a lot better in TF3. We also sat near dead center to the screen on the 2nd last row just in perfect height smile.gif
However there was a preview of Cars 2 in 3D and it looked AMAZING ! I might go watch that just for the 3D effect tongue.gif
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Where in the theater were you seated? The 3D experience varies a lot depending on if you sit close to the screen or far away, in the center or off to the side.

Out towards the side. We didn't really have a choice since we got two of the last ten tickets, after my friend managed to get the original tickets refunded when the train problems prevented me from making it to the intended showing (see my recount on Facebook).
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It also depends on your eyes, as some people go from being unable to see 3D at all, all the way up to being overly sensitive to it.
Yes, I understand that, but I had no problems with the 3D effects in Avatar where the effects worked great, and I don't think either the location or the eyesight should be able to cause the "3D effects" to be rendered as multiple 2D layers. Which was the case in about 35-40% of the shots here.

But if the position in the theatre does indeed matter as you claim, then I see the current 3D fad as a scam -- either the technology should not be used with the current cinemas at all, or the cinemas should not be allowed to fill every seat in the theatre. When I pay for a ticket to a 3D movie, my ability to see the film should not depend on whether I'm lucky enough to sit in the right place or not.
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