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> Huge Massive Lot 150+ Transformers Generation 1 G1, Most 100% Complete, Many C9.0+ Techspecs, Instructions, etc.
Maz
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QUOTE(gravebot @ 29 March 2012, 14:48) *
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QUOTE(Petsku @ 29 March 2012, 03:07) *


Hehe did you go right to the bottom of that article to see who wrote it? ;)

If and when you do decide to sell your Ceji variant Constructicons, Insecticons and now Dirge, Starscream and Ramjet, again, I'd gladly be first in line for those smile.gif

All the best
Maz


Right next to me pal. wink2.gif I'm definitely going to try outbidding you on those Constructicons. biggrin.gif


If you have already contacted the seller regarding the Constructions and are amid negotiations, then of course I will wait my turn or accept that they are yours should you reach an agreement with the seller. I won't interfere.

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QUOTE(Maz @ 29 March 2012, 11:25) *
Hehe did you go right to the bottom of that article to see who wrote it? ;)

If and when you do decide to sell your Ceji variant Constructicons, Insecticons and now Dirge, Starscream and Ramjet, again, I'd gladly be first in line for those smile.gif

All the best
Maz

It was you? Wow, nice! smile.gif That was a great article, thanks for sharing your knowledge with everyone!!

I was originally planning to post my entire collection for sale on eBay today, but in light of the latest discoveries I have decided to postpone the sale a few days so I can do more research and include as many exact manufacturing origins, variant information etc. in the listing as I possibly can.

Can you (or anyone else for that matter) give me any further information on the estimated value of MB and Ceji variants, if there is any more collectible value to them than regular Hasbro versions, that would really help me figure out a proper price tag for the entire set so I could maybe even include a buy-it-now price (with a big bundle discount of course), it would also help a lot if and when I have to start selling the figures separately (or in small sets)?

Thank you so much for everyone who might be able to help me out with this, if my entire set doesn't go as a whole I'll have to try and repay everyone here who has been so kind and helped me (by sending them something nice perhaps, hehe smile.gif

Best Regards,
Petsku

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QUOTE(Maz @ 29 March 2012, 16:51) *
If you have already contacted the seller regarding the Constructions and are amid negotiations, then of course I will wait my turn or accept that they are yours should you reach an agreement with the seller. I won't interfere.

All the best
Maz

No I haven't made a deal yet for any items with anyone and will first see if I can sell the entire collection in one big bundle, if not, I will start selling the figures individually or in sets.

I have been contacted by three people here so far regarding the G1 1986 French Ceji Devastator Constructicons variant set and received some initial offers for it, but have not made any deals.

I will soon be finished going through each item one more time to check if I can find even more MB or Ceji variants, will post my findings here soon.

Thanks guys!
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UPDATE for MB (Milton Bradley) and French Ceji variants - Went through the entire collection once more and can now add the following to the MB and Ceji variant lists:

NOTE: Have edited this post by removing 2 mistakenly identified Autobot cars (they were not the French Ceji variants after all)

Roadbuster - MB variant (Milton Bradley variant, says "1985 Milton Bradley International Inc. under Berne and Universal copyright convention." on instructions), 100% Complete (all 5 missiles even still attached to sprue) + Instructions. C9.0 Condition (Near Mint).

...So the final count is: 2 MB TFs (Jetfire and Roadbuster) and 14 Ceji TFs (6 Constructicons, 5 Insecticons, and 3 Seekers). Thanks again for everyone educating me on the MB and Ceji variants (will appreciate all possible info on such variants greatly, like collectible value, etc).

Best Regards,
Petsku

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QUOTE(Maz @ 29 March 2012, 15:51) *
QUOTE(gravebot @ 29 March 2012, 14:48) *
QUOTE(Maz @ 29 March 2012, 10:25) *
QUOTE(Petsku @ 29 March 2012, 03:07) *


Hehe did you go right to the bottom of that article to see who wrote it? ;)

If and when you do decide to sell your Ceji variant Constructicons, Insecticons and now Dirge, Starscream and Ramjet, again, I'd gladly be first in line for those smile.gif

All the best
Maz


Right next to me pal. wink2.gif I'm definitely going to try outbidding you on those Constructicons. biggrin.gif


If you have already contacted the seller regarding the Constructions and are amid negotiations, then of course I will wait my turn or accept that they are yours should you reach an agreement with the seller. I won't interfere.

All the best
Maz


It's up to seller to decide who get's it.

What I meant was that: May the best offer win! wink2.gif (When it comes to sale)

BTW: Does that Ultra Magnus have rubber tires? Some may appreciate it more if it does have them. And does that Catilla have a golden helmet on it's pretender? Or does the cameras flash give it a different look?

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Hey, wait a minute...

Is that a chromed version of Grimlock's sword?! Did you ever own this?
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QUOTE(Petsku @ 29 March 2012, 16:46) *
Can you (or anyone else for that matter) give me any further information on the estimated value of MB and Ceji variants, if there is any more collectible value to them than regular Hasbro versions, that would really help me figure out a proper price tag for the entire set so I could maybe even include a buy-it-now price (with a big bundle discount of course), it would also help a lot if and when I have to start selling the figures separately (or in small sets)?

Thank you so much for everyone who might be able to help me out with this, if my entire set doesn't go as a whole I'll have to try and repay everyone here who has been so kind and helped me (by sending them something nice perhaps, hehe smile.gif

Best Regards,
Petsku


The thing is, most people don't even know anything about the Ceji variants, let alone go looking for them to establish a market value. The Starscreams and Insecticons I have won, I didn't have any competition at all, in fact I was the only bidder on every Ceji auction I bid on. I will link you to these by private message in a little while so you can see for yourself what I have paid. The lack of knowledge and interest in these items is exactly why I decided to publish an article about them.

The Constructicons are a little different because they were made popular by a very well known collector in the early 2000s, but a few of us have been able to find multiple sets since then. I found a set from a French collector who had 3 sets, I managed to secure a set for 120 Euros with some wear and no extra parts, just the robots + Devastator parts.

MB Transformers are usually only valuable if they have the packaging, as that is usually the only point of interest for collectors. The only exception is MB Tracks, because it is red. Only dedicated MB collectors would usually be interested specifically in loose MB TFs and even then mainly for the paperwork. You will be looking for a very specific kind of person to pay you a premium on the Roadbuster and Jetfire. I have already directed a couple of those people here to have a look smile.gif

QUOTE(Petsku @ 29 March 2012, 18:08) *
UPDATE for MB (Milton Bradley) and French Ceji variants - Went through the entire collection once more and can now add the following to the MB and Ceji variant list:

Roadbuster - MB variant (Milton Bradley variant, says "1985 Milton Bradley International Inc. under Berne and Universal copyright convention." on instructions), 100% Complete (all 5 missiles even still attached to sprue) + Instructions. C9.0 Condition (Near Mint).

Autobot Cars:
- Hoist (French Ceji variant? Has French instructions), 85% complete (missing one fist, one twin blaster, one missile) + Instructions. C9.0+ Condition (Near Mint / Mint)
- Tracks (French Ceji variant? Has French instructions), 90% complete (missing two missiles) + Instructions. C9.0+ Condition (Near Mint / Mint).

...So the final count is: 2 MB TFs (Jetfire and Roadbuster) and 16 Ceji TFs (6 Constructicons, 5 Insecticons, 3 Seekers, and 2 Autobot Cars). Thanks again for everyone educating me on the MB and Ceji variants (will appreciate all possible info on such variants greatly, like collectible value, etc).

Best Regards,
Petsku


I believe the Hoist and Tracks are not actually Ceji variants. You can verify this by looking at their copyrights, you should still see "JAPAN" on Hoist's leg and on Tracks's back. These are just later Hasbro Europe releases, still manufactured by Takara. The instructions will still be multilingual and feature French, but French is not the FIRST language featured like the Ceji toys.

I will write you that PM shortly smile.gif

All the best
Maz

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Petsku
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QUOTE(gravebot @ 29 March 2012, 19:24) *
It's up to seller to decide who get's it.

What I meant was that: May the best offer win! wink2.gif (When it comes to sale)

BTW: Does that Ultra Magnus have rubber tires? Some may appreciate it more if it does have them. And does that Catilla have a golden helmet on it's pretender? Or does the cameras flash give it a different look?

Hey Gravebot,

No I just checked and the Ultra Magnus seems to have plastic tires. About the Catilla helmet - I actually have no idea why it might look golden, if I could've posted more than 10 pics you would see it's silver (maybe I should go ahead and post all the pics on this forum as well, but each post would only have 10 pics each?).

Best Regards,
Petsku

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QUOTE(NRJohn @ 29 March 2012, 20:23) *
Hey, wait a minute...

Is that a chromed version of Grimlock's sword?! Did you ever own this?

Yes the Grimlock sword is chromed, that's how it came in its package. I don't remember what version I owned of him, but I sold him away (along with maybe almost a hundred other Transformers I owned back in the late 80s, all the Dinobots, Trypticon, Scorponok, Metroplex, pre rub Shockwave, Defensor, Computron, other Autobot cars, etc, etc.).

Best Regards,
Petsku

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Petsku
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QUOTE(Maz @ 29 March 2012, 20:27) *
The lack of knowledge and interest in these items is exactly why I decided to publish an article about them.

The Constructicons are a little different because they were made popular by a very well known collector in the early 2000s, but a few of us have been able to find multiple sets since then. I found a set from a French collector who had 3 sets, I managed to secure a set for 120 Euros with some wear and no extra parts, just the robots + Devastator parts.

MB Transformers are usually only valuable if they have the packaging, as that is usually the only point of interest for collectors. The only exception is MB Tracks, because it is red. Only dedicated MB collectors would usually be interested specifically in loose MB TFs and even then mainly for the paperwork. You will be looking for a very specific kind of person to pay you a premium on the Roadbuster and Jetfire. I have already directed a couple of those people here to have a look smile.gif

I believe the Hoist and Tracks are not actually Ceji variants. You can verify this by looking at their copyrights, you should still see "JAPAN" on Hoist's leg and on Tracks's back. These are just later Hasbro Europe releases, still manufactured by Takara. The instructions will still be multilingual and feature French, but French is not the FIRST language featured like the Ceji toys.

I will write you that PM shortly smile.gif

All the best
Maz

Wow - you guys are walking talking, living, breathing Transformers encyclopedias, I cannot thank you enough for all the info you are providing!

Thank you so much for spreading the word and bringing MB or Ceji variations aware collectors to come and have a look. I guess I should really start posting all the pics I have here, despite the 10 pic (per post?) limit.

And I will edit the list now that you told me the Hoist and Tracks are not Ceji (just instructions are multi lingual) accordingly.

Best Regards,
Petsku

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Okay, here I am! lol
Thanks for the heads up Maz ;)

Nice to meet you Petsku, I collect MBs and would definitely be interested in your Roadbuster, and possibly Jetfire, if no one else has already contacted you about them.

Best regards,
JB
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Petsku
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QUOTE(Tomte_Haroldson @ 29 March 2012, 22:21) *
Okay, here I am! lol
Thanks for the heads up Maz ;)

Nice to meet you Petsku, I collect MBs and would definitely be interested in your Roadbuster, and possibly Jetfire, if no one else has already contacted you about them.

Best regards,
JB

Hey JB,

Nice to meet you!

My MB Roadbuster is 100% Complete (all 5 missiles even still attached to sprue) with instructions, and is in excellent C9.0 Condition.

My MB Jetfire is 100% Complete with instructions but I noticed it has some discoloration on its chest plate ("yellowing") and some wear, so I'm grading him C8.0 now.

I am now almost done putting a price tag on each individual figure, and then I have to decide whether to first offer everything in one big bundle (along with a discount of course) or to start selling everything separately or in sets.

I will soon update the thread with my price estimates and info on whether I'm going to put everything up at once on a place like eBay, or sell individually.

I could now also start posting pics of everything in the collection if you guys want (I've already posted them on TFW2005 though), maybe 10 pics per post since that seems to be the limit here.

Best Regards,
Petsku
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Ok here we go with the pics, the first 10 in this post (and then 10 more in each successive):


AUTOBOTS

Cars
  • Hoist, 85% complete (missing one fist, one twin blaster, one missile) + Instructions (multi lingual). C9.0+ Condition (Near Mint / Mint)
  • Jazz, 90% complete (missing two missiles) + Instructions. C8.0 Condition (Minor sticker wear and discoloration)
  • Inferno, 95% complete (missing one missile). C9.0 Condition (Near Mint).
  • Red Alert, 100% Complete. C9.5 Condition (Mint).
  • Sideswipe, 100% Complete (two missiles still even attached to sprue) + Instructions. C9.5 Condition (Mint).
  • Tracks, 90% complete (missing two missiles) + Instructions (multi lingual). C9.0+ Condition (Near Mint / Mint).



Clones
  • Cloudraker, 100% Complete. C9.0+ Condition (Near Mint / Mint).
  • Fastlane, 100% Complete. C9.0+ Condition (Near Mint / Mint).

Please note: though the clones might appear different shades of color, they're *identical* - no discoloration (one member on TWF2005 forums told me my pics look confusing/discolored, but I can only guess that might be due to my lighting conditions as I've got 2 light sources - a lamp and light from my computer screen monitor)


Headmasters
  • Chromedome, 100% complete but may be C6.0 condition only (got this second hand from a friend as a kid and not placing any value on it because somewhat damaged, has marker pen markings on it, one of the guns is damaged, etc.) Could be used for parts? Or, I can just throw away and not include in the shipment if the buyer doesn't want this.
  • Hardhead, 95% complete (missing small grey chest plate) + Instructions. Otherwise C9.0 condition (Near Mint).
  • Hosehead, 100% Complete + Instructions. C9.0 Condition (Near Mint).
  • Nightbeat, 100% Complete + Instructions. C9.5 Condition (Mint).
  • Siren, 100% Complete + Instructions. C9.0 Condition (Near Mint).





- Hot Spot Protectobot, 90% complete (missing 4 small black pieces) + Techspecs. C8.5+ Condition (Minor wear).

- Scattershot Technobot, 100% Complete + Instructions (and Computron instructions). C9.0 Condition (Near Mint).



- Jetfire - MB variant (Milton Bradley variant, says "1984 Milton Bradley International Inc. under Berne and Universal copyright convention." on instructions, was bought from Spain), 100% Complete (including the rare small black clip-piece that attaches the rifle to jet mode) + Instructions. C8.0+ Condition (chest plate has discoloration/yellowing, overall has some wear).



Micro
  • Free Wheeler, 100% Complete + Techspecs (Still on card). C9.0+ Condition (Near Mint / Mint).
  • Highjump (100% Complete) + Techspecs (Still on card). C9.0+ Condition (Near Mint / Mint).
  • Mudslinger (100% Complete) + Techspecs (Still on card). C9.0+ Condition (Near Mint / Mint).
  • Powertrain (100% Complete) + Techspecs (Still on card). C9.0+ Condition (Near Mint / Mint).
  • Swindler (100% Complete) + Techspecs (Still on card). C9.0+ Condition (Near Mint / Mint).
  • Tailspin (100% Complete) + Techspecs (Still on card). C9.0+ Condition (Near Mint / Mint).
  • Tote (100% Complete) + Techspecs (Still on card). C9.0+ Condition (Near Mint / Mint).



Minis
  • Beachcomber, 100% Complete. C9.0+ Condition (Near Mint).
  • Bumblebee, 100% Complete. C9.0 Condition (Near Mint).
  • Cosmos, 90% complete (missing one wheel). C6.5 Condition (missing one wheel and some joints a bit loose).
  • Hub Cap, 100% Complete. C9.0+ Condition (Near Mint / Mint).
  • Outback, 100% Complete. C9.0+ Condition (Near Mint / Mint).
  • Pipes, 100% Complete. C9.0+ Condition (Near Mint / Mint).
  • Powerglide, 90% complete (missing one metal hinge/pin from the other wing). C6.5 Condition (because one pin is missing, the other wing can come off if pulled).
  • Seaspray, 100% Complete. C8.5 Condition (minor wear).
  • Swerve, 100% Complete. C9.0 Condition (Near Mint).
  • Tailgate, 100% Complete. C8.5 Condition (minor sticker wear).
  • Warpath, 100% Complete. C9.0+ Condition (Near Mint / Mint).
  • Wheelie, 100% Complete. C9.0+ Condition (Near Mint / Mint).



Monsterbots
  • Doublecross, 100% Complete + Instructions. C9.0 Condition (Near Mint).
  • Grotusque, 100% Complete + Instructions. C9.0 Condition (Near Mint).
  • Repugnus, 100% Complete + Instructions. C9.0 Condition (Near Mint).



- Optimus Prime, 95% complete (missing fists) + Instructions. Trailer and its contents in impeccable C9.0+ condition (Near Mint / Mint, spring loaded launcher works like a dream, two of the rockets even still attached to sprue, etc.). Optimus himself in otherwise mint condition except for right front tire which is a bit dented... so grade C8.0? (very tight joints, stickers in great shape, no visible wear whatsoever).



...To be Continued...

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...Continuing with the pics:

- Powermaster Optimus Prime, 100% Complete + Instructions. C8.5+ Condition (Minor wear).



Powermasters
  • Getaway, 100% Complete + Instructions. Otherwise in excellent C9.0+ condition but eyes have been painted with a red marker pen (could be removed?).
  • Joyride, 100% Complete + Instructions. C9.0+ Condition (Near Mint / Mint).
  • Slapdash, 100% Complete + Instructions. C9.0+ Condition (Near Mint / Mint).



Pretender Beasts
  • Catilla, 100% Complete + Instructions. C9.0+ Condition (Near Mint / Mint).
  • Chainclaw, 100% Complete + Instructions. C9.0+ Condition (Near Mint / Mint).



Pretenders
  • Landmine, 100% Complete + Instructions. C6.5 (some wear and sword handle a bit cracked).
  • Waverider, 100% Complete + Instructions. C9.0 Condition (Near Mint).



- Quickswitch, 100% Complete + Instructions. C9.0 Condition (Near Mint).



- Roadbuster - MB variant (Milton Bradley variant, says "1985 Milton Bradley International Inc. under Berne and Universal copyright convention." on instructions), 100% Complete (all 5 missiles even still attached to sprue!) + Instructions. C9.0 Condition (Near Mint).



- Rodimus Prime, 100% Complete + Instructions. C8.5+ condition (Minor sticker wear).



- Snarl, 80% complete (Missing launcher and 2 missiles. Sword handle is a bit cracked) + Instructions. Otherwise C8.0 condition (some wear).



Sparkabots
  • Fizzle, 100% Complete. C9.0 Condition (Near Mint).
  • Guzzle, 100% Complete. C9.0 Condition (Near Mint).
  • Sizzle, 100% Complete. C9.0 Condition (Near Mint).



Superion gift set ("Pentajet" from Italy) + Instructions, Aerialbots:
  • Air Raid ("Tornado" from Italy), 90% complete (gun missing). C8.0 Condition (some wear, some joints a bit loose).
  • Fireflight ("Optor" from Italy), 90% complete (gun missing). C8.0 Condition (some wear, some joints a bit loose).
  • Silverbolt ("Radiant", from Italy), 90% complete (missing white "ramp") + Instructions. C8.0 Condition (some wear, some joints a bit loose).
  • Skydive ("Log" from Italy), 90% complete (gun missing). C8.0 Condition (some wear, some joints a bit loose).
  • Slingshot ("Vertic" from Italy), 90% complete (gun missing). C8.0 Condition (some wear, some joints a bit loose).


...To be Continued...
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...Continuing with pics:

Targetmasters
  • Blurr, 100% Complete + Instructions. C9.0+ Condition (Near Mint / Mint).
  • Crosshairs, 100% Complete + Instructions. C9.5 Condition (Mint).
  • Kup, 100% Complete + Instructions. C9.0 Condition (Near Mint).
  • Landfill, 100% Complete. C9.5 Condition (Mint).
  • Pointblank, 100% Complete + Instructions. C9.5 Condition (Mint).
  • Scoop, 100% Complete. C9.5 Condition (Mint).



Throttlebots
  • Goldbug, 100% Complete. C8.5 Condition (Minor wear).
  • Searchlight, 100% Complete. C9.0 Condition (Near Mint).
  • Wideload, 100% Complete. C9.0+ Condition (Near Mint / Mint).



- Topspin, 90% complete (gun missing). C8.5 Condition (Minor sticker wear).



Triggerbots
  • Backstreet, 100% Complete + Techspecs (Still on card). C9.0 Condition (Near Mint).
  • Dogfight, 100% Complete. C8.5 Condition (Minor wear).
  • Override, 100% Complete + Techspecs (Still on card). C9.0+ Condition (Near Mint / Mint).



Triple Changers
  • Broadside, 100% Complete + Instructions. C9.0+ Condition (Near Mint / Mint).
  • Sandstorm, 100% Complete + Instructions. C9.0+ Condition (Near Mint / Mint).
  • Springer, 100% Complete + Instructions. C9.0+ Condition (Near Mint / Mint).



Ultra Magnus, 100% Complete + Instructions. Otherwise in excellent C9.0+ Condition, but the other missile launcher is missing the firing trigger.



- Wreck-Gar, 100% Complete + Instructions. C9.0+ Condition (Near Mint).


...And that's it for the Autobots in the G1 collection.

Next up: Decepticons...

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