Welcome, guest. Register to remove this message!

[Thunderclash]

Now I am curious how the 3D was. I find it a bit annoying, since I like to wear my normal glasses at the theater. I lucked out and caught a "2D" showing of DOTM, but I'd still like to check out the 3D version some day in the near future.

The 3D is only stereoscopic images, yes, like a 3D Viewmaster? I'm using glasses (I'm nearsighted) and I had no problems using the 3D glasses over my ordinary glasses, but the 3D didn't really feel that immersive. Though I had opted to sit in the back of the movie theatre (in the middle) and this could explain why the 3D experience felt only so-so. Thank God they had some of the ordinary 3D glasses left, because the ones I got first was a Harry Potter model (3D "horn-rimmed" glasses). No one was going to catch a glimpse of me at a Transformers showing with Harry Potter spectacles, hell no .

[SureShot]

I've seen Band Of Brothers the full series at least 6 times and it never bores me. I'm giving The Pacific a 2nd reviewing and I'm pretty sure more will come. More Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg thanks !.

When it comes down to it all... if you didn't like TransFormers 2007 movie then you surely won't like 2009 or 2011 - end of story !

Oooh by the way... Don't make TransFormers movies in the next 10-20years... while movie may have rebooted the franchise and giving $$$ to Hasbro, then navigating through the worlds TF forums to hear Bayformers whining is just ear wreching. Hasn't done internal fandom much good.

This post has been edited by SureShot: 13 July 2011, 03:14

[mikoel]

EDIT: Flaming, trolling, and spamming is not tolerated here.

/BigPete

This post has been edited by BigPete: 16 July 2011, 21:55

[BigPete]

*SNIP* Incoherent nonsense removed.

You need to stop. Right now. You have been warned about this behaviour before, and you have just earned yourself another warning.

For the last time: WE ALL KNOW THAT YOU HATE THE MOVIES AND MICHAEL BAY. STOP TRYING TO RIDICULE THE PEOPLE WHO DO LIKE THE MOVIES AND BAY.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Even you. But when you go around spreading the same propaganda that got your warn level risen before, and simply refusing to accept that others have different opinions than you... Wow. Bad move.

From now on, stay out of ALL of the movie discussions on this forum, both for your own sake and for the sake of other members. If you can't discuss things like a rational adult, then keep your trap shut.

[Honkimus Prime]

SPOILER WARNING text contains some major spoilers



Well...today I went to see this movie with my friend even though at first at had decided otherwise. Efter reading many reviews and user comments about this movie it made me feel that it could be more like ROTF part2. I was partially wrong but unfortunately this movie is just slightly better that ROTF. The first ten minutes are ok and quite exciting and then...


Ok, from where should I begin. About human characters and the first half of the movie. Most scenes with Carly and Laboof just doesn't work or are not even neccesary for the movie. They are just awkward and none of the is funny (much like scenes with Sam and his parents). You maybe thought that scenes with Padme and Anakin from Episodes 2 and 3 were cheesy and clumsy. Well these DOTM scenes are like finest Swiss cheese then. Overall, most human characters were just waste of screentime and what a hell did John Malcovich do in the movie. He just had some crazy ass, mentally unstable character who vanished from the movie. Well not that any other character was any more sane. And how about ex-agent Simmons? He just got rich (how BTW?) and wasn't even working for the government anymore, but suddenly he was all over there giving orders and messing things up with his german(?) sidekick, who was...well I don't know who or what the frak he was supposed to be. They actually let those guys into a secret government base? Everything went actually fine when they showed autobots, but then they just had to show us Sam doing silly things and hassling with different not so likable characters. But hey, I quess that the Michael Bay humor. I just don't get it. It's not funny. Most human characters were just pointless and silly.

Now all that could be just fine if we would talk about movie such Dumb and Dumber part x, but in this case all that makes the movie really noncoherent. Because somewhere after the first half of the movie, it actually changes it's tone. Finally the Decepticon invasion begins and we will see crying people, dead and dying people and the whole chicago is just a warzone. Suddenly everything turns rather dramatic and grim. It just doesn't work. At first you are watching The Three Stooges and then it's all Shindlers list. It's like watching two different movies.

But movie got cool robots, huh. Yes and No. I don't really like the actual design of those bayformers save some ok-looking characters. Soundwave was not that bad, but those decepticlones were more like those tentacle crabs from Crysis games. Megatron actually looked better in this movie than in previous ones, but still had stupid facial appearance, as most movie robots. Wreckers...well nascars with gatling and machineguns kinda look and sound gnarly but other than that they were a bit insignificant. All in all CGI looked good but that didn't really suprise me.
Only good thing was, that transformers actually had more conversations and lines, but there were still just too little interaction between them, unless you count fighting and killing each oher being that. Most characters were still just kind of a extras and still quite hollow. I mean for example; I wasn't moved by the execution of Ironhide. Why should I? In the movies he was just another giant robot. He just wasn't really someone I could relate or anything. Perhaps this is the reason why I didn't find Prime executing Megatron such a big deal. Movie Megatron was just an a-hole and that's it. Prime killed him. End of story. Thats what very often happens to bad guys in the movies. They die. Well what about their...umm deeper motives and all? What motives? I haven't read any DOTM books, comics or played DOTM console games. Maybe those will give more dept to all those characters but I think the Movie alone should do that. You can't expect someone to first read all kinds of books and comics before he or she can fully enjoy the movie. Megatron was just a greedy and evil rpbot (and stupid too). I mean come on. He just decided to kill sentinel prime because some whining fleshbag lured him to do so. She was some stinky autobot-lover...Now really...Megatron, that's just silly. That's all I can say about movieverse Mega. He was just a evil robot, who got blasted.

Some of the action sequences were better than in ROTF, but there was some really weird cuts. Like the decepticons invasion just suddenly started. The screen went black for a few seconds and then decepticons were already bombing chicago. What's with that?
Movie was also way too long. I actually was bored at some points and eventually even that fighting became booring. I had seen that and it just kept going ang going and going zzzzzzzzzzzzz....

I'm not sure if Michael Bay is a douchebag for I don't really know him (yeah, he could still do less flag waving and stuff). And he is hardly Hitler for as far as I know, Hitler escaped to the moon. All I know is that he is not my favourite directors and this movie didn't make me to change my feelings about that. Maybe he could be a great stunt coordinator etc. but a director...well IMO; No. He just seems to like too much showing legs, tits, asses, big explosions, car chases and CGI action. I mean, who cares about characters with dept and personality, interesting plot etc. Ok, I do.
And for those who suggest that I could try to do it better movie I can only say; I don't have to. I'm not trying to be a movie director. Haven't even claimed that. MB is, and he is expecting us to pay some money to see his movies. I paid and I rant. That's fair considering that neither MB or Spielberg is going to give me back my money I just spent

But if you liked the movie, fine. I didn't. Well not that much anyways. Wasn't as bad as ROTF, but not as "good" as the first one.

BTW: I can almost believe that gigantic robots with feelings and emotions might exist, but no way I going to believe that only relatively handsome, goofy and workless guy with crazy pets and crazy stories would be dating a nice supermodel. Not in this universe

This post has been edited by Honkimus Prime: 2 August 2011, 17:47

[Taxos]

Has peoples opinion of this movie changed since the premiere? I recall people saying it was the best in the whole trilogy and now they say it's not as good as the first one (and leaving ROTF out of the equation). But recently I've seen some bashing popping up, some saying pretty harsh things. I had such fun with this and I refuse to believe it's an awful movie.

[BigPete]

I think it's a great movie! I can't wait until I get my hands on the Blu-Ray release!

[SureShot]

Nope nothing changed. I also loved ROTF because of a different turn og events and I enjoyed the obvious comical stuff an and the "not-so-dark" attitude of the while movie. The 3rd install is inevitably darker and I love that just a well. The first movie had both elements so in a way theres is something very coherent to the movies in my opinion. I' can't wait till the DVD release...I want to see shockwave again.

[Summerganny]

It's still the best of the three for me. It's not perfect, but despite it's flaws it's much better movie than the previous ones, though I enjoyed (and still enjoy) both of them as well. DOTM has great some awesome action-scenes, great atmosphere and overall very good plot though the storytelling suffers here and there.

I'm not a fan of the end, which wasn't too satisfying, but I'm happy with Dark of the Moon and I think that it represents Transformers the way I like, so I love it.

[DkConvoy]

Obviously there's MAJOR spoilers in this "review"!

And I've just realised that I never posted my oppinion of the new movie.. silly me!

Im very happy that so many people liked the movie this time around. Looking at the box office numbers its clearly been a success, which is great and a big victory for our franchise.

But personally I thought this movie was the worst of the trilogy.
I quess I expected more of a "bang" experience, being the last film in Michael Bays trilogy.

Alot of folks would dissagree with me, but I never got "the chills" this time around.
I was hoping that we would get something that could top the forest battle in Revenge of The Fallen, but to me that did not happen.

I really hoped the stupid-stereotypic-teenage humour would be heavily toned down this time, but I found the "jokes" to be just as annoying as in RoTF. It seems like Bays idea of making these movies, is to make sure that at least 40% of the film is full of filler.
And in this case, filler means "bad" humour.

I was never blown away by anything this time, which I was quite dissapointed about.
The invasion scene was literally over in a couple of frames, and the entire thing just seemed pointless.

The many plotholes of the film also grinded my gears this time around, especially concerning the "deal" between Megatron and Sentinel.
Megatrons original intent of visiting our world was because of the Allspark, but in this movie it didnt seem like the case.
I felt it ignored the events of the first film to be honest.

On last thing I'll flesh out before naming my pros and cons in a list, is Shockwave.

Shockwave was without a doubt hyped, but he turned out to be yet another bland "character".
The only line he had in the entire movie was "Optimuuus..." and random cybertronian gibberish.
And his only purpose was to command his little "pet" to knock over a tower.

But in all fairness, I have to give them credit for Shockwave in one way..
He was the perfect distraction for us fans. I never espected Sentinel Prime to be the true villain of the film, because I counted on Shockwave. That I thought was a really cool move, but at the same time, I was still dissapointed about the lack of Shockwave.
None the less, I never espected Sentinel to be the bad guy.

+ Sentinel Prime
+ Laserbeak
+ Nice looking cgi
+ The moon landing
+ Murder Prime

- Annoying humour
- Too much human action
- The Wreckers was just there, very little screen time
- Shockwave
- The tower scene
- The invasion was over in the blink of an eye
- Too much plot confusion
- The final battle between Optimus and Megatron ( 9 seconds.. seriously? )
- Sam was really annoying this time..
- I was never blown away by any of the action sequenses
- The 3D is highly overrated

I would probably give the film a 4 out of 10.

With all this said, I will obviously buy the movie when its released on Blu-ray.
And like I said in the beginning of my "review", despite my own oppinions, Im really happy that so many people enjoyed this film

This post has been edited by DkConvoy: 19 September 2011, 19:59

[Summerganny]

^I agree about that there really wasn't any fight scene that could beat forest battle. Though action scenes were good enough for being worth watching. I kinda liked Sam this time. Yeah, there were those annoyin moments too, but this time he had some nice scenes as well, like "There is no plan". Though action, especially in the end, was just giant baysplosions, flying Prime and bunch of CGI-stuff smashing and shooting each other (main aubotos and robots generally didn't do very much in the end, which was huge disappointment), it wasn't too bad for my taste and for me the real savior were some well-done atmospheric scenes, like Sam & Aubotos -goodbyes I mentioned.

And Laserbeak owned The Evil Trio of Fallen, Megatron and Shockwave. Laserbeak is evil and menacing. The real bad guy from the trilogy... Awesome.

This post has been edited by Summerganny: 20 September 2011, 16:18

[netherman]

****ing GREAT

I am speechless.,, writing more later ! so many impressions.... This one tops it all... IMO it's so darn close stacking up to TFTM '86 if not it matches it !

It's cool that you liked it. I was hoping for a bit more story-coherence and plausibility. But I guess that's what suspension of disbelief is all about. I;m hoping they make a Transformers 4 and consider bringing Grimlock and Unicorn into it. Whew!

[Thunderclash]

The 3D Blu-Ray version is out in late January 2012, while you can get the vanilla DVD/Blu-Ray now. Is it worth it to have a "huge" 3D-enabled flatscreen and 3D-capable Blu-Ray player? Anyone who wants to go all out ?

[Thunderclash]

Bloody hell, I ordered the vanilla Blu-Ray + DVD Transformers: DOTM version in time for Christmas, but it got damaged during transit because of (IMO) cheap, lousy packaging. The first time I ordered from Platekompaniet.no and it could well be my last if they keep this up.

[Smokescreen]

It's not that crazy to have a 3D setup. I bought a new TV with 3D support for 8500 SEK at 47" and the old PS3 does 3D blu-ray without any problem.

I wouldn't have bought this stuff for 3D alone, but I was getting a new TV anyway so I figured it would be stupid not to have it.